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Culture (1): Consider Phlebas
Iain Banks
Similar reading experience to The Expanse with a bit more levity, and less corny dialogue IMO. Similar depth of character / plot (or lack thereof). Enjoyable because of the genre more so than the quality of writing. Some highlights to wet the potential reader's whistle:
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Idiran ships (with serious, droll names), including: Hand of God 137 (which exists alongside over 100 other ships with the same name)
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The Culture doesn't take warfare seriously and tries to prevent themselves from having to engage with the realities of slaughtering Idirans by naming their ships goofy shit like: What are the Civilian Applications, Value Judgement, Falling Outside the Normal Moral Constraints, Xenophobe, etc.
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“Promoting stars into novae from light years away without really understanding why you’re fighting” is a badass description of space warfare
The intro to chapter 7 is very reminiscent of of a grim-dark version of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy:
Complaints / Critiques:
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The explanation of how computer memory works in multiple dimensions, and how binary decays is just wrong – but this section of the book presents a fascinating idea of the minimum spanning representation of consciousness.
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Lotta stuff going on in this book that I just don’t care about at all since it wasn’t motivated. It’s not lacking descriptions per se, but there’s not a lot of spacial transition when protag moves from one location to another. I’m reminded of that other Gene Wolfe novel The Book of the New Sun: The Shadow of the Torturer x The Expanse. It’s serial sci-fi that I struggle to care about and can't imagine sinking my teeth into for a 9-part series. I don't get what's so good about this series, but it's praised by the likes of Elon Musk – maybe just cult classic, slightly darker take on sci-fi than e.g. Star Wars?¿
Overstays its welcome too, and after catching whiffs of the direction that this book was heading, I looked into the wiki one page summaries of the rest of the series and they're all mostly-unrelated sagas that take place in the same universe, but probably not the same characters or even the same millennia. That's not a bad thing by itself, but I'm not captivated enough by the world building, and this book itself overstays its welcome by about 150-250 pages, so I don't think I care to read 8 more one shot sagas
SPOILERS:
+0.25 bonus points for a haunting ending where everyone dies. I love that shit
Maybe + some more bonus points for the appendices which do provide ample world building context that makes me maybe interested enough to read another book in the series... @ [redacted], you in particular might enjoy reading just the appendices! See the link I included in my first comment to an online version of the book.
Sidenote – downside of audiobooks is that I listened to the whole book thinking "meh, no worlbuilding" when it was probably referenced via footnote a few times in the text :upsidedown_face:
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| Read | Author | Title | Pages | Published | Genre | Rating | Rating' | Tags | Recommended by |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1/13/24 | Iain Banks | Consider Phlebas Culture (1) | 471 | 1987 | Sci-Fi | 6.250 | 5.833 | roon | |
| 6/13/24 | Neal Stephenson | Seveneves | 880 | 2015 | Sci-Fi | 8.750 | 8.611 | earth loses | |
| 8/16/16 | Douglas Adams | The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy | 224 | 1979 | Sci-Fi | 6.500 | 6.111 | referenced | |
| 5/23/25 | Alan Moore | Watchmen | 334 | 1986 | Graphic Novel | 8.708 | 8.565 | earth loses | |
| 4/12/25 | Walter Isaacson | Elon Musk | 688 | 2023 | Biography | 5.500 | 5.000 | referenced | Leigh |
| 7/14/16 | Henry Neff | The Second Siege Tapestry (2) | 512 | 2008 | Fantasy | 7.500 | 7.222 | earth loses | Charlie J. |
| 9/21/26 | Yoko Ogawa | The Memory Police | 288 | 1994 | Sci-Fi | 4.000 | 3.333 | ||
| 7/1/26 | Vernor Vinge | A Fire Upon the Deep | 626 | 1992 | Sci-Fi | 7.250 | 6.944 | ||
| 12/31/25 | Cixin Liu | To Hold Up the Sky | 336 | 2021 | Sci-Fi | 6.700 | 6.333 | ||
| 11/9/25 | Greg Egan | Distress Subjective Cosmology Cycle (3) | 342 | 1998 | Sci-Fi | 7.000 | 6.667 | ||
| 10/29/25 | Greg Egan | Quarantine Subjective Cosmology Cycle (1) | 280 | 1992 | Sci-Fi | 7.750 | 7.500 | ||
| 10/15/25 | Robert A. Heinlein | Starship Troopers | 290 | 1987 | Sci-Fi | 8.000 | 7.778 | Charlie J. | |
| 9/14/25 | Kurt Vonnegut | Player Piano | 296 | 1952 | Sci-Fi | 6.650 | 6.278 | ||
| 9/10/25 | George Orwell | 1984 | 328 | 1949 | Sci-Fi | 7.750 | 7.500 | ||
| 9/7/25 | Yevgeny Zamyatin | We | 226 | 1924 | Sci-Fi | 7.000 | 6.667 | ||
| 9/6/25 | Aldous Huxley | Brave New World | 288 | 1932 | Sci-Fi | 7.250 | 6.944 | ||
| 8/11/25 | Greg Egan | Diaspora | 376 | 1997 | Sci-Fi | 8.000 | 7.778 | thesephist | |
| 8/11/25 | Olga Ravn | The Employees | 126 | 2020 | Sci-Fi | 5.500 | 5.000 | ||
| 6/8/25 | Helen Phillips | The Need | 272 | 2019 | Sci-Fi | 7.150 | 6.833 | ||
| 4/7/25 | Pierce Brown | Light Bringer Red Rising Saga (6) | 704 | 2023 | Sci-Fi | 7.750 | 7.500 | Thomas | |
| 3/27/25 | Pierce Brown | Dark Age Red Rising Saga (5) | 784 | 2019 | Sci-Fi | 7.500 | 7.222 | Thomas | |
| 3/18/25 | Pierce Brown | Iron Gold Red Rising Saga (4) | 596 | 2018 | Sci-Fi | 6.000 | 5.556 | Thomas | |
| 3/18/25 | qntm | Fine Structure | 386 | 2021 | Sci-Fi | 7.000 | 6.667 | ||
| 3/13/25 | Pierce Brown | Morning Star Red Rising Saga (3) | 518 | 2016 | Sci-Fi | 5.125 | 4.583 | Thomas | |
| 3/5/25 | Pierce Brown | Golden Son Red Rising Saga (2) | 464 | 2015 | Sci-Fi | 5.875 | 5.417 | Thomas | |
| 2/28/25 | Pierce Brown | Red Rising Red Rising Saga (1) | 382 | 2014 | Sci-Fi | 5.500 | 5.000 | Thomas | |
| 2/18/25 | Hugh Howie | Dust Silo (3) | 480 | 2013 | Sci-Fi | 7.000 | 6.667 | Jack M. | |
| 2/14/25 | Hugh Howie | Shift Silo (2) | 576 | 2013 | Sci-Fi | 7.250 | 6.944 | Jack M. | |
| 2/9/25 | Hugh Howie | Wool Silo (1) | 592 | 2011 | Sci-Fi | 7.000 | 6.667 | Jack M. | |
| 2/1/25 | Matt Dinniman | Dungeon Crawler Carl Dungeon Crawler Carl (1) | 464 | 2020 | Sci-Fi | 6.000 | 5.556 | Noah | |
| 1/15/25 | qntm | Ed | 144 | 2021 | Sci-Fi | 7.000 | 6.667 | ||
| 1/13/25 | qntm | Valuable Humans in Transit and Other Stories | 107 | 2022 | Sci-Fi | 7.375 | 7.083 | ||
| 1/3/25 | Isaac Asimov | Nightfall and Other Stories | 352 | 1969 | Sci-Fi | 6.737 | 6.374 | ||
| 12/7/24 | Dan Simmons | The Rise of Endymion Hyperion Cantos (4) | 579 | 1997 | Sci-Fi | 6.000 | 5.556 | ||
| 11/30/24 | Dan Simmons | Endymion Hyperion Cantos (3) | 441 | 1996 | Sci-Fi | 6.250 | 5.833 | ||
| 11/30/24 | George R.R. Martin | Dreamsongs: The Second Kind of Loneliness | 670 | 1972 | Sci-Fi | 7.250 | 6.944 | ||
| 11/24/24 | Dan Simmons | The Fall of Hyperion Hyperion Cantos (2) | 517 | 1990 | Sci-Fi | 8.250 | 8.056 | ||
| 11/16/24 | Dan Simmons | Hyperion Hyperion Cantos (1) | 482 | 1989 | Sci-Fi | 8.025 | 7.806 | ||
| 9/6/24 | Alastair Reynolds | Eversion | 352 | 2022 | Sci-Fi | 7.083 | 6.759 | Nick W. | |
| 9/6/24 | Greg Egan | You and Whose Army? | 34 | 1998 | Sci-Fi | 6.750 | 6.389 | ||
| 9/5/24 | Greg Egan | Planck Dive | 23 | 1998 | Sci-Fi | 9.250 | 9.167 | ||
| 9/4/24 | Paul Anderson | Tau Zero | 232 | 1970 | Sci-Fi | 7.250 | 6.944 | roon | |
| 8/29/24 | José Saramago | Blindness | 352 | 1995 | Sci-Fi | 7.000 | 6.667 | ||
| 8/28/24 | Margaret Atwood | Oryx and Crake MaddAddam (1) | 400 | 2003 | Sci-Fi | 6.000 | 5.556 | Steg | |
| 8/1/24 | Ursula K. Le Guin | The Telling Hainish Cycle (8) | 416 | 2000 | Sci-Fi | 6.500 | 6.111 | ||
| 7/28/24 | Ursula K. Le Guin | Four Ways to Forgiveness Hainish Cycle (7) | 320 | 1995 | Sci-Fi | 5.500 | 5.000 | ||
| 7/26/24 | Ursula K. Le Guin | The Left Hand of Darkness Hainish Cycle (4) | 337 | 1969 | Sci-Fi | 7.500 | 7.222 | ||
| 7/26/24 | Ursula K. Le Guin | The Word for World is Forest Hainish Cycle (5) | 189 | 1972 | Sci-Fi | 7.750 | 7.500 | ||
| 7/16/24 | Ursula K. Le Guin | City of Illusions Hainish Cycle (3) | 199 | 1967 | Sci-Fi | 6.750 | 6.389 | ||
| 7/10/24 | Ursula K. Le Guin | Rocannon's World Hainish Cycle (1) | 258 | 1966 | Sci-Fi | 6.500 | 6.111 | ||
| 7/10/24 | Ursula K. Le Guin | Planet of Exile Hainish Cycle (2) | 135 | 1966 | Sci-Fi | 6.000 | 5.556 | ||
| 6/30/24 | Ursula K. Le Guin | The Dispossessed Hainish Cycle (6) | 284 | 1974 | Sci-Fi | 7.850 | 7.611 | ||
| 6/14/24 | Philip K. Dick | Ubik | 241 | 1969 | Sci-Fi | 6.500 | 6.111 | ||
| 6/14/24 | Philip K. Dick | The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch | 290 | 1964 | Sci-Fi | 7.500 | 7.222 | ||
| 6/2/24 | Philip K. Dick | Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said | 259 | 1974 | Sci-Fi | 7.063 | 6.736 | ||
| 5/27/24 | Philip K. Dick | A Scanner Darkly | 220 | 1977 | Sci-Fi | 6.750 | 6.389 | ||
| 5/22/24 | Philip K. Dick | Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? | 274 | 1968 | Sci-Fi | 8.000 | 7.778 | ||
| 5/12/24 | Italo Calvino | Cosmicomics | 179 | 1965 | Sci-Fi | 7.029 | 6.699 | Will Liff. | |
| 1/1/24 | Arthur C. Clarke | Fountains of Paradise | 263 | 1979 | Sci-Fi | 7.000 | 6.667 | ||
| 12/17/23 | James S.A. Corey | Caliban's War The Expanse (2) | 605 | 2012 | Sci-Fi | 5.000 | 4.444 | Charlie J. | |
| 10/28/23 | James S.A. Corey | Leviathan Wakes The Expanse (1) | 577 | 2011 | Sci-Fi | 6.750 | 6.389 | Charlie J. | |
| 10/14/23 | Roger Zelazny | Lord of Light | 308 | 1967 | Sci-Fi | 6.750 | 6.389 | ||
| 8/23/23 | Adrian Tchaikovsky | Cage of Souls | 638 | 2019 | Sci-Fi | 8.000 | 7.778 | Alex W. | |
| 7/15/23 | Gene Wolfe | Fifth Head of Cerberus | 244 | 1972 | Sci-Fi | 9.083 | 8.981 | ||
| 6/18/23 | Various | Obsolescence | 360 | 2023 | Sci-Fi | 6.000 | 5.556 | ||
| 1/31/23 | Greg Egan | Permutation City Subjective Cosmology Cycle (2) | 275 | 1994 | Sci-Fi | 6.750 | 6.389 | ||
| 1/29/23 | George Saunders | Escape from Spiderhead | 10 | 2010 | Sci-Fi | 7.750 | 7.500 | ||
| 1/27/23 | Robert A. Heinlein | The Moon is a Harsh Mistress | 382 | 1966 | Sci-Fi | 8.250 | 8.056 | ||
| 1/18/23 | Adrian Tchaikovsky | Children of Ruin Children of Time (2) | 475 | 2019 | Sci-Fi | 6.750 | 6.389 | Alex W. | |
| 1/15/23 | Blake Crouch | Dark Matter | 368 | 2017 | Sci-Fi | 7.000 | 6.667 | Nick W. | |
| 1/13/23 | Adrian Tchaikovsky | Children of Time Children of Time (1) | 513 | 2015 | Sci-Fi | 7.000 | 6.667 | Alex W. | |
| 1/11/23 | Ted Chiang | Exhalation | 368 | 2019 | Sci-Fi | 7.500 | 7.222 | ||
| 1/8/23 | Joe Halderman | The Forever War | 236 | 1974 | Sci-Fi | 5.000 | 4.444 | ||
| 10/27/22 | Cixin Liu | Deaths End Three Body Problem (3) | 592 | 2008 | Sci-Fi | 8.500 | 8.333 | Alex W. | |
| 10/17/22 | Cixin Liu | The Dark Forest Three Body Problem (2) | 400 | 2008 | Sci-Fi | 9.000 | 8.889 | Alex W. | |
| 10/10/22 | Isaac Asimov | Second Foundation Foundation (4) | 210 | 1953 | Sci-Fi | 6.500 | 6.111 | ||
| 10/1/22 | Cixin Liu | The Three Body Problem Three Body Problem (1) | 302 | 2008 | Sci-Fi | 8.000 | 7.778 | Alex W. | |
| 9/15/22 | Isaac Asimov | Foundation Foundation (3) | 255 | 1951 | Sci-Fi | 6.500 | 6.111 | ||
| 9/11/22 | Isaac Asimov | Forward the Foundation Foundation (2) | 417 | 1993 | Sci-Fi | 7.000 | 6.667 | ||
| 9/5/22 | Frank Herbert | Dune Messiah Dune (2) | 256 | 1969 | Sci-Fi | 7.000 | 6.667 | ||
| 9/5/22 | Frank Herbert | Children of Dune Dune (3) | 444 | 1976 | Sci-Fi | 6.500 | 6.111 | ||
| 8/6/22 | Frank Herbert | Dune Dune (1) | 412 | 1965 | Sci-Fi | 7.500 | 7.222 | ||
| 7/13/22 | Isaac Asimov | Prelude to Foundation Foundation (1) | 448 | 1988 | Sci-Fi | 6.500 | 6.111 | ||
| 10/13/16 | Ernest Cline | Ready Player One | 384 | 2011 | Sci-Fi | 6.500 | 6.111 | ||
| 4/20/16 | Orson Scott Card | Ender's Game Ender (1) | 324 | 1985 | Sci-Fi | 7.750 | 7.500 | ||
| 6/28/13 | Eoin Colfer | The Supernaturalist | 290 | 2004 | Sci-Fi | 7.000 | 6.667 |